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CONFIRMED: The DEA Struck A Deal With Mexico's Most Notorious Drug Cartel

An investigation by El Universal found that between the years 2000 and 2012, the U.S. government had an arrangement with Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel that allowed the organization to smuggle billions of dollars of drugs while Sinaloa provided information on rival cartels.

Sinaloa, led by Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, supplies 80% of the drugs entering the Chicago area and has a presence in cities across the U.S.

There have long been allegations that Guzman, considered to be "the world’s most powerful drug trafficker," coordinates with American authorities.
But the El Universal investigation is the first to publish court documents that include corroborating testimony from a DEA agent and a Justice Department official.

The written statements were made to the U.S. District Court in Chicago in relation to the arrest of Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla, the son of Sinaloa leader Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada and allegedly the Sinaloa cartel’s "logistics coordinator."
Here's what DEA agent Manuel Castanon told the Chicago court:
"On March 17, 2009, I met for approximately 30 minutes in a hotel room in Mexico City with Vincente Zambada-Niebla and two other individuals — DEA agent David Herrod and a cooperating source [Sinaloa lawyer Loya Castro] with whom I had worked since 2005. ... I did all of the talking on behalf of [the] DEA."

A few hours later, Mexican Marines arrested Zambada-Niebla (a.k.a. "El Vicentillo") on charges of trafficking more than a billion dollars in cocaine and heroin. Castanon and three other agents then visited Zambada-Niebla in prison, where the Sinaloa officer "reiterated his desire to cooperate," according to Castanon.

El Universal, citing court documents, reports that DEA agents met with high-level Sinaloa officials such as Castro more than 50 times since 2000.
Then-Justice Department prosecutor Patrick Hearn told the Chicago court that, according to DEA special agent Steve Fraga, Castro "provided information leading to a 23-ton cocaine seizure, other seizures related to" various drug trafficking organizations, and that "El Mayo" Zambada wanted his son to cooperate with the U.S.


"The DEA agents met with members of the cartel in Mexico to obtain information about their rivals and simultaneously built a network of informants who sign drug cooperation agreements, subject to results, to enable them to obtain future benefits, including cancellation of charges in the U.S.," reports El Universal, which also interviewed more than one hundred active and retired police officers as well as prisoners and experts.

Zambada-Niebla's lawyer claimed to the court that in the late 1990s, Castro struck a deal with U.S. agents in which Sinaloa would provide information about rival drug trafficking organizations while the U.S. would dismiss its case against the Sinaloa lawyer and refrain from interfering with Sinaloa drug trafficking activities or actively prosecuting Sinaloa leadership.

"The agents stated that this arrangement had been approved by high-ranking officials and federal prosecutors," Zambada-Niebla lawyer wrote.
After being extradited to Chicago in February 2010, Zambada-Niebla argued that he was also "immune from arrest or prosecution" because he actively provided information to U.S. federal agents.

Zambada-Niebla also alleged that Operation Fast and Furious was part of an agreement to finance and arm the cartel in exchange for information used to take down its rivals. (If true, that re-raises the issue regarding what Attorney General Eric Holder knew about the gun-running arrangements.)
A Mexican foreign service officer told Stratfor in April 2010 that the U.S. seemed to have sided with the Sinaloa cartel in an attempt to limit the violence in Mexico.

El Universal reported that the coordination between the U.S. and Sinaloa, as well as other cartels, peaked between 2006 and 2012, which is when drug traffickers consolidated their grip on Mexico. The paper concluded by saying that it is unclear whether the arrangements continue.

The DEA and other U.S. agencies declined to comment to El Universal.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-u...-cartel-2014-1

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This is hilarious considering I was just telling people about this stuff in the thread "Mexican Vigilantes Take Back Their Town from Cartel and Police"

Except I quoted it as the CIA doing it who are also known to be in on this. That's why I say people don't know what they're talking about when they start saying we should just go down there and kill the cartels.

Some people even suggested the answer can all be solved digitally. As though a kid in their bedroom can hack Mexico and solve all of this. Lol. That was one of the dumber things I have heard.

People like that have no clue what the true reality is. But they are very quick to voice their opinion and they seem pretty sure that they think they know what they're talking about. Articles like this prove they don't. LOL.

The first time I started telling people about this happening was almost 20 years ago. So this info is about as new to me as hearing someone say "have you heard of that new band called Nirvana?"

Back in the 90's when people like me were warning people that this was happening, we were called conspiracy nuts and idiots by people who couldn't believe it. Now who are the idiots? LOL!

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Why don't we just enforce the 'drop one out rule'

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Re: CONFIRMED: The DEA Struck A Deal With Mexico's Most Notorious Drug Cartel

Does this honestly surprise anyone? Offering immunity to criminals in exchange for information is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

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TThat's why I say people don't know what they're talking about when they start saying we should just go down there and kill the cartels.
Smart are you? You sound like a cheerleader for these guys.

I was one of the people who said we should crush the cartels, I dont care about CIA involvement with these rebellions against them.

The reason the US administration has had their hand in the politics of Mexico is because they want a weak mexico and the weak idiot sheep in America to be dependent upon them and below them.

We should go into Mexico and annhilate them but hey, business is business and who gives a fuck about innocent bystanders getting shot and cut up? America is big business!

Regardless of conspiracy theories, I want the cartels crushed but they are a supplier for the weak people in the western hemisphere who love drugs so you can make money out of them.

Funny how US Corp fucks up things? Iraq, Afghanistan, hell the whole ME, Russia, China, Africa and South America.

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Why don't we just enforce the 'drop one out rule', you rambling prick
Really? You're resorting to name calling now? Considering you had no answer for several of my points in the other post, I guess that's all you can do at this point is call someone names.

But don't worry I won't go crying to the mods about it. I'm not like some people on here who report each other because they can't win a debate, etc. I have always heard the saying that if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit. You certainly have me baffled right now, LOL

Oh and I have wondered if you're male or female. Thanks for finally confirming for me that you are female. Not that it matters I was just wondering.

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Smart are you? You sound like a cheerleader for these guys.

I was one of the people who said we should crush the cartels, I dont care about CIA involvement with these rebellions against them.

The reason the US administration has had their hand in the politics of Mexico is because they want a weak mexico and the weak idiot sheep in America to be dependent upon them and below them.

We should go into Mexico and annhilate them but hey, business is business and who gives a fuck about innocent bystanders getting shot and cut up? America is big business!

Regardless of conspiracy theories, I want the cartels crushed but they are a supplier for the weak people in the western hemisphere who love drugs so you can make money out of them.

Funny how US Corp fucks up things? Iraq, Afghanistan, hell the whole ME, Russia, China, Africa and South America.
You do know you're not the first and only person to say that's how it should be handled, right? When I said that I was including many people including people I know personally who think thats how to handle it. However as I pointed out in the other post that would be the absolute worst way it could be handled.

Am I a cheerleader for them? Lol, you obviously didn't read where I said legalize drugs to solve the problem. Just because I don't support the silly idea of going in with tanks and Apache helicopters that doesn't mean that I support them. Please don't use Bush's statement of you're either with me or against me!

There are other ways to solve the problem.

Can you tell me who this "WE" is that is supposed to go to Mexico to do the dirty deed? If you're talking about the US, I think anyone with an IQ higher than 10 can see from this article alone that it will never happen.

Perhaps you didn't read the article fully but it stated basically that our government is in on it. They have been for decades. So if you're saying how it should be handled in an alternate universe then okay. However in this universe it will never happen and going into Mexico guns blazing is just a dream. A bad one at that.

I stated several things that would go wrong by doing that in the previous article mentioned. That would be a great way to start an insurgency in the US like they have in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah that would really solve the problem.

I am in support of gun rights, being macho, etc. Hell I'm a 6'3" 290 pound biker. So being tough is not an unknown concept to me. However common sense must prevail in some situations. Not everything can be solved with guns blazing especially if it's another country coming in to do it.

There is one thing and one thing only that will stop what is going on in Mexico. That is 100% legalization of all drugs. I have been in support of marijuana legalization for over 20 years. I always said it should never go further than that.

However in the past two years or so I have came to the conclusion that drug laws just don't work on any drugs. As I said in the other article I would challenge anyone to say that they've ever heard anyone say that they would like to do a drug but they don't do it just because it's illegal to do so. I've never heard a single person say that. So laws don't prevent drug use.

I just read an article online earlier that says heroin is getting more and more popular now in the US. Want to guess why? Because they cracked down on the OxyContin and pain pill factories and are making it harder to get any pain pills even for people who really need them.

So what are the people doing that were addicted to pain pills? Now they are buying heroin and shooting it up because it's much cheaper. Yeah big government, thanks for solving the pain pill problem for us, lol.

I assume everyone reading this knows that heroin is much worse than pain pills. But I know what assume leads to, so I'll point it out for those who don't know. LOL.

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Really? You're resorting to name calling now? Considering you had no answer for several of my points in the other post, I guess that's all you can do at this point is call someone names.

But don't worry I won't go crying to the mods about it. I'm not like some people on here who report each other because they can't win a debate, etc. I have always heard the saying that if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit. You certainly have me baffled right now, LOL

Oh and I have wondered if you're male or female. Thanks for finally confirming for me that you are female. Not that it matters I was just wondering.
Who cares?


I just started working at a pizzeria on siesta key and one of the delivery guys told me he had a business but refused to pay the police a sort of rent. Well considering this guy new the police were in the cartels pocket, he decided,unafraid of what consequences would bring about, that he wasn't gonna pay because he like lots of other civilians in Mexico are fed up with the cartels. So the Mexican police actually deported him to the united states. The fucks up with that?

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I would have to say he is extremely lucky. This site is filled with footage of cases that turned out quiet differently with cartel enemies, lol.

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