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Da Black CULTCHA is a WON'T WIN CULTCHA.

It is CHAOS based.

Decent society considers CHAOS to be a problem.

Low life people in da low life Black CULTCHA love CHAOS. It is their Comfort Zone.



It has nothing to do with cops.


Anyone having anything to do with Black CULTCHA needs enough pain, agony and torment until they cut the cr*p and stop creating their own problems.

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Cleveland Police Not Charged in Fatal Shooting of Tamir Rice
Twelve-year-old holding a pellet gun when a Cleveland police officer fired

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A Cleveland grand jury has decided not to indict the white police officer who shot and killed Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old boy who was carrying a plastic-pellet gun, one of a number of cases last year that focused national attention on police treatment of young African-Americans.

Cleveland officer Timothy Loehmann shot Tamir after responding to a 911 call alerting officers that someone was holding what appeared to be an actual pistol.

After the grand jury’s decision was announced, Matthew Meyer, an assistant prosecutor, said the plastic-pellet gun had been modified by removing from its barrel an orange tip—designed to indicate it wasn’t a real firearm. Without the tip, the pellet gun resembled an actual handgun.

To make the point, Mr. Meyer held up the pellet gun next to a real firearm. “It is impossible to say which one is real,” he said.

Mr. Meyer added that although Tamir was 12 years old, he was large for his age and appeared to be in his 20s, according to estimates of officers at the scene and to a number of witnesses. Surveillance footage taken before the shooting showed Tamir pointing the pellet pistol at people walking at a nearby community center.

When Officer Loehmann arrived on the scene with his partner, Frank Garmback, their squad car skidded on snowy grass and stopped very close to the Tamir. As the policeman jumped from the car, the boy reached for the pellet gun in his waistband, according to the officers and surveillance video, and Officer Loehmann shot him.

Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Timothy McGinty—after announcing the decision Monday—said, “Now is the time for the community and all of us to heal.” He added the public should look through all of the available evidence before making any conclusions about the validity of the grand jury’s decision.

“Look at the report. Look at the facts. Look at the law,” Mr. McGinty said.

Tamir’s family said they were “saddened and disappointed by this outcome—but not surprised,” according to a statement cited by the Associated Press. The family accused Mr. McGinty of “abusing and manipulating the grand jury process to orchestrate a vote against indictment.” They renewed a request for the U.S. Justice Department to step in and conduct a separate investigation.

The Justice Department said it would continue its independent review and determine if further action is appropriate.

Echoing the prosecutor, the family urged anyone disappointed in the grand jury decision to express that “peacefully and democratically.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/no-crimi...ase-1451330237

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And the family's response...?

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Poor kid should have had better parenting.

The video clearly shows he pulled the gun out and pointed at the cops.

I only wish the cops would have stopped like 50 yards back. Maybe he wouldn't have been shot

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Poor kid should have had better parenting.

The video clearly shows he pulled the gun out and pointed at the cops.

I only wish the cops would have stopped like 50 yards back. Maybe he wouldn't have been shot

The parents are low life Ghetto Trash as well, of course.

The piece of sh*t products of...da Black CULTCHA habitually create dangerous life threatening situations where anything can happen.

They love it.

And plan and plot up these situations.

They practice setting them up.

They scheme and game play these situation among themselves.

They love it.

It's sport for them.


INCLUDING the part where some Trayvon Martin ends up getting shot and killed due to their own criminality.

And INCLUDING the part where the fellow low life Ghetto Trash scumbags come out in unison proclaiming...


"He din doo nuffin!"


Blax do this same exact behavior over and over and over and over.

Just as they have for generations over decades.


The magic word here?

Behavior.



Whenever - if ever - the Black Community wants a different result, they will change their Behavior.



All they have to do is behave like decent people.


You know, like what is expected of the rest of society.

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Legally speaking toy guns have to have an orange tip on the barrel, if you alter it to get rid of the orange tip you are violating the law.
That looked to me like a BB gun, which isn't a toy. Obviously BB guns aren't dangerous enough to warrant the cop shooting him (if the cop knew) but I will say two things: The child, for all intents and purposes was brandishing a firearm; and the cops pulled up way too close to the kid.. thus not giving themselves time to asses the situation and respond appropriately. It ended in a dead kid sadly, and of course no real consequences for the cops.

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I wouldn't say no real consequences. It's not over, so we don't know what's to come of the cop who killed him.

If past high profile police shootings are any indication, his career as a cop may be over. May have to move to another state, change his name

I know it's not prison, but it's not nothing.

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Legally speaking toy guns have to have an orange tip on the barrel, if you alter it to get rid of the orange tip you are violating the law.
That looked to me like a BB gun, which isn't a toy. Obviously BB guns aren't dangerous enough to warrant the cop shooting him (if the cop knew) but I will say two things: The child, for all intents and purposes was brandishing a firearm; and the cops pulled up way too close to the kid.. thus not giving themselves time to asses the situation and respond appropriately. It ended in a dead kid sadly, and of course no real consequences for the cops.

In real life, cops don't have the luxury of pulling up at some imaginary 'perfect' distance.

The cops acted totally appropriately.

The only 'consequences' they should face should be a cash bonus, 3 month paid vacation and a recommendation in their record.

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Poor kid should have had better parenting.

The video clearly shows he pulled the gun out and pointed at the cops.

I only wish the cops would have stopped like 50 yards back. Maybe he wouldn't have been shot
Less options to diffuse - he was at a park, with women and children around. Knowing he's already pointed it at people, you can't distance yourself farther than any potential victims or people to get caught in crossfire (in general). If this was an abandoned warehouse or a big open road, it might have gone differently. Since he was also 5 foot 7 and over 170lbs, it's also hard to tell he was a child. So as far as the cops "know", there's a grown man there, without kids playing, pointing a gun at an innocent and when they arrive, he goes to whip it out. COULD he have panicked and meant to get it and throw it on the ground? Eh, sure. But when you can pull a trigger in less than a second - you don't get the benefit of the doubt.

One thing people skip over in these arguments, is the location at the time. Different scenarios require a different armed response.

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Well... I guess he found out what happens when you go around pointing a gun at random people.

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