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Was Chicago Doctor Serial Killer London's Jack the Ripper?

Was Chicago doctor serial killer London's Jack the Ripper?
Descendant of American murderer investigates links
between the notorious criminals.


One descendant of H.H. Holmes, the notorious Chicago man known as America’s first serial killer, now suggests his ancestor could actually have also been the London serial killer Jack the Ripper.

Jeff Mudgett, the great-great-great-grandson of the killer, has submitted handwriting samples from both Holmes and Jack the Ripper for review and handwriting experts have confirmed the likelihood they could stem from the same hand.

Now Mudgett is on a quest to see if the American, believed to have killed 200 victims before he was caught in 1894, had made any documented visits to London around the same time with the killing wave swept through London.


H.H. Holmes confessed to killing 27 people before he was caught in 1894,
but many believe he was responsible for the deaths of 200.



The Murder Castle, circa 1893, was designed by Holmes to have
secret passage ways and body chutes to transport bodies.

Herman Webster Mudgett, known as H.H. Holmes, was a wealthy and well-educated doctor in Chicago, where he moved in 1884 from his native New Hampshire.

He eventually became owner of a drugstore and opened a hotel in Englewood, a suburb of the Windy City.

But the 60-room boarding house was a murder trap – having been constructed to allow the proprietor easy access to his victims.

Dubbed ‘the murder castle’ he designed the structure with windowless rooms equipped with gas lines and body chutes so he could transport his sedated or already dead victims to the basement of the hotel.


A diagram that appeared in the Chicago Tribune showed the secret passage ways
inside of the 'Murder Castle' where Holmes could easily move his victims to the basement.


Jeff Mudgett enlisted handwriting experts to compare the handwriting of H.H. Holmes and Jack the Ripper.
The experts say they likely came from the same hand.

Some victims were locked in their bedrooms, that were soundproof and fixed with gas lines, so they would be asphyxiated.

Others were kept in a soundproof bank vault, where they would be kept and ultimately would suffocate.

Once the victims died, hidden body chutes would allow Holmes to drop their sedated or dead bodies to the basement of the hotel, where he would dissect the corpses - selling the skeletons to medical schools.

Holmes was finally caught and admitted to killing 27 people, though some suspect he was to blame for 200 deaths.

He was hanged in May 1896.

He had been married to three different women and had an unknown number of children.

Jeff Mudgett learned of his terrifying heritage when his grandmother decided to investigate their lineage as part of a growing tend among families wishing to find out more about their family tree.

'It left him questioning everything he thought he knew about himself and his family. The new information forever changed him, propelling him down a new path in search of the truth,' according to an interview he gave to Ancestry.com.

He began looking into the heinous crimes of his ancestor and the inquiry took a turn, when he began to notice similarities in Mudgett's modus operandi and that of Jack the Ripper.

'Jeff had H.H. Holmes’ handwriting compared to the infamous Jack the Ripper letter. One expert, recommended by the British Library, concluded both were written by the "same hand," while a computer program used by the Postal Service and Department of Justice stated it was a 97.95 per cent match.'

Jack the Ripper was the title given to the unidentified killer who preyed upon the poor and immigrant communities of London in 1888, killing five.

It's believed that this killer targeted female prostitutes, whose throats were slashed before the perpetrator mutilated their internal organs.

The abdominal mutilation caused many to believe the killer was surgically trained.

The identity of the murderer has remained unknown but he has arguably become the world's most famous killers, even a century after his deadly spree.


Jeff Mudgett learned of his family history at the age of 40.

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Re: Was Chicago Doctor Serial Killer London's Jack the Ripper?

Jack's identity was a German called Karl Fegenbaum

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Re: Was Chicago Doctor Serial Killer London's Jack the Ripper?

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Jack's identity was a German called Karl Fegenbaum
I thought he was just a suspect?

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Re: Was Chicago Doctor Serial Killer London's Jack the Ripper?

It's Jeff Mudgett the midget (sorry)

Interesting, thanks for posting

He was indeed a strong contender on the is he/isn't he list. I know he was thought to have been surgically trained - you don't have to have surgical knowledge to do the crimes he did, it's basic anatomy.

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Re: Was Chicago Doctor Serial Killer London's Jack the Ripper?

Good God. Can you imagine being a descendant of this guy? Yuck.

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Re: Was Chicago Doctor Serial Killer London's Jack the Ripper?

H.H. apparently can't be placed in London at the time and the M.O. is much different between the crimes others point out. Would be good to see if he was in London at the time.

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Re: Was Chicago Doctor Serial Killer London's Jack the Ripper?

If this is true, this is amazing.

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Re: Was Chicago Doctor Serial Killer London's Jack the Ripper?

I like ghosts stories and would love to know if the 611 w 63rd is completely haunted, honestly he was quite a genius and that hotel sounds like something you would see today and not back then.

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