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I know that.. That in itself doesn't make Ukraine a nazi country. Canada also has neo nazi's, does that make them a fascist country?
If we did not follow our impeachment process to remove our elected leader, allowed fighters with openly nazi ideology to fight with our military, had nazi's in our government...... Then yeah, that would be an issue.

Having Nazis in your nation is one thing, allowing them to take up arms and giving them positions in your government is entirely different.

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The Russian puppet was elected.
There was a procedure in place to remove him under the Ukrainian constitution, but it wasn't followed.
No doubt western nations were quick to recognize the election, despite the fact it's completely invalid under Ukrainian constitution........ And equally quick to dismiss the election in Crimea to separate.
Complete and utter hypocrisy.

And it's not just the battalions full of nazis that are fighting with the Ukrainian army, there are also elements in the new government.

And when the fighting with Russia is done, they've made no secret that they plan on doing next, which is controlling Ukraine.
Kind of like a nazi mujahideen.
First of all Crimea was taken by the Russian military, then the election followed. It wasn't the other way around.

Sure, when the Ukrainian leader was ousted by the public it wasn't going along with the constitution, but being invaded militarily and forced to take an election is a whole different story.

There are to many hypothetical scenarios you have there. I've not heard anything about their element in the Ukrainian government, or their plans to control Ukraine post victory. Not to mention that the "nazi" element of the population there is less than a fraction of a percent.

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If we did not follow our impeachment process to remove our elected leader, allowed fighters with openly nazi ideology to fight with our military, had nazi's in our government...... Then yeah, that would be an issue.

Having Nazis in your nation is one thing, allowing them to take up arms and giving them positions in your government is entirely different.
If Canada were to be invaded by Russia, you would change your tune. Likely tell every man who knows how to shoot to get over there and save your country. Regardless of his ideology.

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First of all Crimea was taken by the Russian military, then the election followed. It wasn't the other way around.

Sure, when the Ukrainian leader was ousted by the public it wasn't going along with the constitution, but being invaded militarily and forced to take an election is a whole different story.

There are to many hypothetical scenarios you have there. I've not heard anything about their element in the Ukrainian government, or their plans to control Ukraine post victory. Not to mention that the "nazi" element of the population there is less than a fraction of a percent.
Look into it. Vice has a few episodes regarding it, and there are a lot of mainstream news articles about it as well.

Crimea was "taken" after the illegally ousted president fled there......

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If Canada were to be invaded by Russia, you would change your tune. Likely tell every man who knows how to shoot to get over there and save your country. Regardless of his ideology.
We have no historical ties to Russia......... No part of this nation was ever a part of Russia.

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Look into it. Vice has a few episodes regarding it, and there are a lot of mainstream news articles about it as well.

Crimea was "taken" after the illegally ousted president fled there......
I've seen every episode of Russian Roulette on Vice.. That president fled there because he knew he would be protected by Russia.

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We have no historical ties to Russia......... No part of this nation was ever a part of Russia.
History is just that though, in the past. True Russia gave themselves the opportunity to put troops in Crimea if they wanted through treaty, but not Eastern Ukraine. Putin is crossing the line, and he is bringing misery on his people because of it..

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I've seen every episode of Russian Roulette on Vice.. That president fled there because he knew he would be protected by Russia.
And because it was his base of support.

I was referring to the nazi elements in the Ukraine forces and government.

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History is just that though, in the past. True Russia gave themselves the opportunity to put troops in Crimea if they wanted through treaty, but not Eastern Ukraine. Putin is crossing the line, and he is bringing misery on his people because of it..
The Ukraine isn't recognizing the election in Crimea either....... It's a 2 way street.

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And because it was his base of support.

I was referring to the nazi elements in the Ukraine forces and government.
Yeah I've seen everything regarding that, they don't at all in any way come off as Fascist Nazi's fighting to control Ukraine to me.

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