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Unfortunately, every country seems to jump on ' kill the brown man' band wagon. I have (east) Indian friends who get labeled as Muslims and treated with great disrespect because they are brown. I am white and I am married to a black man and I don't give a fuck who cares. This world is so fucked up that we don't care about each other and it is all about me all the time, it is time to change before we die off because of our own selfishness.

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The thing is though, Japan and Germany had a sense of national unity.

All of these Middle eastern nations put tribal loyalty, religious loyalty and family loyalty above any sense of national unity.

Left to do as they please, they'll immediately start to kill each other for a multitude of reasons.
Hitler used racism, that's how he gained many followers in other countries, he convinced them that the Aryans were the master race and all others were genetically inferior.

The Japanese thought their Emperor was Divine, which made them superior to the white nations and therefore had a Divine Right to rule the world.

Very similar to what is happening with Radical Islam

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If a 10 year occupation cost 2 trillion dollars, what is a 100 year occupation going to cost?

Some would argue that what we've already done basically amounts to a 100 year occupation
Yeah, but we also keep control over at least that much revenue in oil sales and can collaborate to manipulate oil prices

Buy stock in the armament/ defense industries and companies that specialize in heavy construction overseas

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I guess the good news is, if Hillary is elected, we will be at war with Iran.

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“I want the Iranians to know that if I’m president, we will attack Iran. In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary...k-iran/5460484

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Yeah, just send in the Army, spend a few trillion more dollars, and in 5 years repeat the process.

Where does it end?
Force is the best option. ISIS can be destroyed, and eventually they will be.
The only question now is how long? How many thousands more will be slaughtered before something is done.

Obama can have a hundred nation coalition, it doesn't matter if nobody is willing to fight.

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What's the alternative?

Iraq can't stand on its own, their Army runs away.

No matter who you kill, someone bad will wind up in control.
The alternative is we kill ISIS. And we make Iraq and Syria pay for it.
Iraq is currently bringing the fight to ISIS, but they will most likely fail. And when they do, they'll have no problem paying us to do it.

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If a 10 year occupation cost 2 trillion dollars, what is a 100 year occupation going to cost?

Some would argue that what we've already done basically amounts to a 100 year occupation
The most recent occupation of Iraq was nothing. That occupation was about winning the hearts and minds. It was about appeasing the insane notion that we can put a missile through a small window and only kill intended targets.

When Allied troops occupied a city from the nazis, they could level a entire block if they were shot at. The rules of engagement are far different now, that's why we bogged down in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq.

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The most recent occupation of Iraq was nothing. That occupation was about winning the hearts and minds. It was about appeasing the insane notion that we can put a missile through a small window and only kill intended targets.

When Allied troops occupied a city from the nazis, they could level a entire block if they were shot at. The rules of engagement are far different now, that's why we bogged down in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq.
According to the rumor mill among certain units who served in Iraq, going balls-to-the-wall with 360 degrees of fire in response to even the slightest aggression used to be standard procedure for a lot of the security contractors over there.

At least that's what Buzzell claimed in his book.

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According to the rumor mill among certain units who served in Iraq, going balls-to-the-wall with 360 degrees of fire in response to even the slightest aggression used to be standard procedure for a lot of the security contractors over there.

At least that's what Buzzell claimed in his book.
Given that Blackwater was given immunity from any kind of prosecution its little wonder really.

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The alternative is we kill ISIS. And we make Iraq and Syria pay for it.
Iraq is currently bringing the fight to ISIS, but they will most likely fail. And when they do, they'll have no problem paying us to do it.
They still haven't paid you for what was spent in the initial invasion and occupation. And short of staying there, its a matter of time before someone else poses a threat to them that they're unwilling to deal with.

So what are you going to do, just babysit them from now to eternity?

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