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Re: Britain Votes to Leave EU

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Just because Britain voted to leave the EU doesn't mean that we aren't part of Europe anymore, we just aren't part of the Union. We're still in Europe... I mean, our country hasn't moved anywhere.

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It probably and most likely won't "go through fully" as people are already petitioning for a second referendum. "Everyone please vote for your opinion. You all have the freedom to vote and a freedom of speech" but when "leave" wins, all the politicians call for a second referendum. What is the actual point in voting at all? It is a con. "Vote for the decision that YOU think is best" - Britain votes leave....Politicians the next day "this wasn't the outcome we expected or wanted, let's do another until we get the result which favours OUR beliefs and opinions" or even better "let's be corrupt (nothing new) and cause havoc in Europe until people beg us to join the EU and the EU beg us to join them again". Politics is just corruption.

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Re: Britain Votes to Leave EU

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It probably and most likely won't "go through fully" as people are already petitioning for a second referendum. "Everyone please vote for your opinion. You all have the freedom to vote and a freedom of speech" but when "leave" wins, all the politicians call for a second referendum. What is the actual point in voting at all? It is a con. "Vote for the decision that YOU think is best" - Britain votes leave....Politicians the next day "this wasn't the outcome we expected or wanted, let's do another until we get the result which favours OUR beliefs and opinions" or even better "let's be corrupt (nothing new) and cause havoc in Europe until people beg us to join the EU and the EU beg us to join them again". Politics is just corruption.
Because democracy is only good when it is in their favor.

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I for one think it's a good decision, I am also young and educated.

The change in tone once Brexit had one was disgusting

Calling the majority, while only 52% "uneducated", "old and cenial" and my favorite "racist" is astounding!.

If the referendum happens for a revote and this time its a 48% leave 52% stay, wouldn't that warrant for ANOTHER revote ?.

As others have said, people only accept democracy when it suits them.

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Because democracy is only good when it is in their favor.
Definitely so voting is a complete waste of time!

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It was NOT fair for us to vote with so few facts and so little time. I feel we needed at least another year to break it all down; 27.8% didn't vote and who knows how many of those didn't vote due to uncertainty?
Whats done is done, however, so I'm trying to be positive and focus on the good changes that could possible come about. I truly hope it was the right choice.

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It was NOT fair for us to vote with so few facts and so little time. I feel we needed at least another year to break it all down; 27.8% didn't vote and who knows how many of those didn't vote due to uncertainty?
Whats done is done, however, so I'm trying to be positive and focus on the good changes that could possible come about. I truly hope it was the right choice.
there was plenty of time to find out whatever you needed to know......if you were expecting the remain or the leave campaigners to give you honest facts then you should've known better.....politicians lie at the best of times but when they're campaigning you simply can't believe anything they (or the various media companies that support them) say

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A petition calling for a second EU referendum has reached three million signatures, attracting the biggest surge of support Parliament’s website has ever seen.

The author of the petition, William Oliver Healey, says the Government should re-stage the referendum because the winning vote for Leave was less than 60 per cent and was based on a turnout of less than 75 per cent.

Professor Vernon Bogdanor, one of Britain’s foremost constitutional experts said a second referendum is “highly unlikely”.

He told The Telegraph: “I don’t think the EU will wish to bargain any further, they will take this vote as final.”

Prof Bogdanor, an expert in constitutional history at King’s College London who was David Cameron’s tutor at Oxford, warned that Governments will be “very careful” about calling for referendums in the future.

Professor John Curtice, whose exit poll was the only one to predict the Conservatives would win last year's general election, said the subject was so divisive within mainstream political parties and their supporters that it would be unlikely to form a campaigning issue for some time - let alone spark another public vote.

Thursday's referendum saw 17.4 million (51.9%) votes cast to leave the EU, compared with 16.1 million (48.1%) for remaining part of the bloc, with a turnout of 72.2%, according to the Electoral Commission.

n response, millions have signed an online petition calling for the Government to implement a rule that "if the Remain or Leave vote is less than 60% based on a turnout less than 75%, there should be another referendum".

The petition passed the seven-figure landmark just over 24 hours after the referendum result was confirmed.

Prof Curtice said: "How many people voted in favour of Leave? Seventeen million. One million is chicken feed by comparison.

"It's no good people signing the petition now, they should have done it before. Even then, these petitions don't always mean a great deal.

"It has passed the 100,000 mark for it to be debated in Parliament. All that means is that some MPs will say, 'It's a terrible shame', others will say, 'Hallelujah'. Then that's the end of it.

"Mainstream political parties have been divided on Europe. The parties' supporters have been divided. Nobody is going to want to campaign prominently on this."

The professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde added: "If Boris Johnson is running the Government and if (disengagement from the EU) is taking a long time to be implemented, two years down the line we could have another poll showing people actually want to reverse the decision and remain in.

"Then there could be a situation where the opposition party in a general election have a mandate to hold a new referendum on it."

Is the referendum legally binding?

In theory, the Prime Minister could ignore the referendum result, put the question to a parliamentary debate and gamble on the majority of MPs voting to remain.

This is because parliament is sovereign and referendums are generally not binding in the UK.

Had the 2011 referendum on changing the electoral system to alternative vote been successful, the Government would have been obliged to change the law. However, no such provision was contained within the EU referendum legislation.

Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty states: “Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements”.

Mr Cameron can decide when to invoke Article 50, which is the formal notification to the EU of Britain’s decision to leave. He could still decide to ignore the vote and refuse to invoke it. However, in practise, this is very unlikely.

He has said in the past that he would have to trigger it immediately after a vote for Leave, although he could have been speaking figuratively to emphasise that the referendum was final.

On Saturday, the EU founding states called on Britain to "urgently" trigger Article 50 and begin the process of departure.

After invoking Article 50, Britain would have up to two years to negotiate their terms of exit. If they wanted any longer, all member states would need to unanimously agree to it.

Prof Bogdanor said that Article 50 is “deliberately designed to make it difficult to leave. The balance of power is with the other 27 member states.”

He went on: “There are up to two years to negotiate. Unless there is unanimity, they can say ‘these are our terms, take it or leave it’.”

Senior EU officials have already said they want Britain to leave as soon as possible.

Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, said “it doesn’t make any sense to wait until October to try to negotiate the terms of their departure”.

In an interview with Germany’s ARD television station, he added: “I would like to get started immediately.”

Will Britain ever be able to re-join the EU?

Yes. The final clause of Article 50 states: “If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49”.

Article 49 of the Lisbon Treaty deals with the procedure for any countries wanting to join the EU, whether they have previously been members or not.

It says that if a European state is committed to promoting the values of “human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights” then it may apply to become a member of the Union.

Following an application, the European Council would have to unanimously agree to Britain re-joining, after consulting with the Commission and receiving assent of the European Parliament. The decision would then need to be ratified by all member states.

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Re: Britain Votes to Leave EU

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We left the EU (European Union), not Europe. Dimwit.

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