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Horrific Limo Fire That Killed 5 California Nurses Was Accidental, Say Investigators

The California Highway Patrol determined that the limo fire that killed five women was an accident caused by friction from the rear drive shaft coming into contact with the floor pan of the vehicle.

By Daniel Arkin, Staff Writer, NBC News

Officials on Monday announced that the horrific limousine fire that killed five California nurses celebrating a bridal shower was ,“accidental in nature,” and caused by a mechanical problem.

Investigators found that the lethal inferno was sparked by a, “catastrophic failure,” of the vehicle’s rear suspension system, said California Highway Patrol Capt. Mike Maskarich.

Authorities said that investigators found no evidence of criminal wrongdoing, adding that no criminal charges will be filed.

However, the state’s Public Utilities Commission does plan to fine the owners of the limo company $1,500 for transporting a total of nine passengers — one more than permitted per regulations, said Brigadier General Jack Hagen of the California Public Utilities Commission.

“Some tragedies are crimes and some are not. This one is not,” said San Mateo County District Attorney Steve Wagstaffe, who reviewed investigators’ findings.

The stretch limousine burst into flames while a nurse, Neriza Fojas, was celebrating her nuptials with a group of friends — all nurses, according to NBCBayArea.com. Fojas and four other women became trapped inside the vehicle and died at the scene.

Autopsies and additional tests showed that the cause of death for the five women was smoke inhalation associated with a fire, San Mateo County Coroner Robert Foucrault said at Monday's news conference.

Four other passengers who escaped through the 1999 Lincoln Town Car's narrow partition dividing the front and rear ends of the limo survived the deadly blaze. The limo driver, Orville Brown, also survived.

Brown, 46, said he heard commotion in the rear of the vehicle and thought one of the nine female passengers was asking him to pull over on the shoulder of the San Mateo-Hayward Bridge so she could smoke a cigarette.

But Brown quickly realized that the woman was crying out for help — shouting, "Smoke, smoke!" — as a fast-moving blaze and thick plumes of smoke engulfed the back half of the limousine.

He told investigators that he helped the four survivors escape through the partition.

In July, Brown's estranged wife, Rachel Hernandez-Brown, told NBC Bay Area that she had been arguing with him on the phone just minutes before the limo erupted in flames.

But authorities determined that a review of Brown's phone records showed that he was not using his cell when the blaze broke out, Maskarich said on Monday.

The driver should still be charged with neglect. I hope the families of the women sue! If you don't like your job, get another one!

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How awful that the driver did little to help, what a jerk!!!
He did nothing

Just got an update today!

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Re: 5 Women Die in Limousine Fire on Bay Area Bridge

Why did he not open the back door? Maybe more women would have survived.

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Why did he not open the back door? Maybe more women would have survived.

No necessarily. Sometimes, the sudden burst of air makes the fire rage more.

That would be my first thought, too.

I think that is why the fire fighters try to locate the people from the outside and tell you to close the doors to keep the fire contained, when possible. If it's small enough, it would, "suffocate," for lack of a better word, from lack of oxygen.

If the driver hadn't ignored the women, who knows?

I should call my former occasional limo driver. I liked her. In the first 15 minutes of our first ride, she told us she was gay and had a son fathered by a best friend.

Well, she took a call and said it was her wife. It went on from there.

She never heard of a Royal Kier, and her mother was a bartender. I gave her a taste. I'm still straight, too ;)

I must have one of those faces. People tell me things right away :)

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No necessarily. Sometimes, the sudden burst of air makes the fire rage more.
That's a good point. I didn't even think of that.

I don't know what a royal kier is.

I must have one of those faces too. People just standing in the check out line with me will tell me way too much info. lol I guess some people just need to get things off their chest and don't have any friends who will listen.

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Re: 5 Women Die in Limousine Fire on Bay Area Bridge * Update

sounds like some mob shit doesn't it?

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That's a good point. I didn't even think of that.

I don't know what a royal kier is.

I must have one of those faces too. People just standing in the check out line with me will tell me way too much info. lol I guess some people just need to get things off their chest and don't have any friends who will listen.
Champagne & Chambord, suggested by a bartender at The Four Seasons, Philadelphia, at a Christmas party when I worked for attorneys. He even put a cherry in it for color.

Started a trend with all the wives and girlfriends at the party ;) It also went with my red nails. Back then, I had great natural nails.

I don't drink anymore since the diabetes. I could count on one hand how times how many I drank in any given year before that.

It was about 2 or 3 years ago I didn't feel like driving and had some extra money and got her to drive us to see Lewis Black a few times.

None of my friends will drive in NYC, even ones who live there, lol!

Our first ride, she brought a bottle of champagne and I asked her to stop at a liquor store for the Chambord.

People always ask me where things are in stores, but, I talk to everyone, too, and direct the lines, lol!

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sounds like some mob shit doesn't it?

Sounds more like an asshole who didn't want to hear a bunch of women and didn't even check to see if anything was wrong when they kept shouting and banging on the partition.

Had he checked at the first shouts, maybe the woman would have gotten married and kept all of her friends (for driver, not you)!

Very sad for the future husband, the rest of the friends and families

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