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I'd just like to say that the term assault rifle or assault weapon is wrong. An assault rifle/weapon has fully automatic capability and are near impossible to obtain unlike the words of the media want you to believe.
They're not hard to obtain if you have the cash and time to wait for paperwork.

Full auto AR15/M16 will run you around $20,000. An Uzi or Mac 10 full auto will run you around $3,500.

Just have to fill out an ATF form 4, pay your $200 tax stamp and wait months and its all yours.

EDIT: I wont go into all the details of getting one as this isn't the thread for that but this is the jist of it.

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Old 06-18-2016, 03:22 AM
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Ok it exists, someone post it

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They're not hard to obtain if you have the cash and time to wait for paperwork.

Full auto AR15/M16 will run you around $20,000. An Uzi or Mac 10 full auto will run you around $3,500.

Just have to fill out an ATF form 4, pay your $200 tax stamp and wait months and its all yours.

EDIT: I wont go into all the details of getting one as this isn't the thread for that but this is the jist of it.
Yeah I said near impossible beings you may only own one produced before 1986 unto which most people don't sell them heh.

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So, the rifle is like any other gun, correct? You have to pull the trigger for every bullet fired - which means the same damage and number of people hit would happen with a handgun?

Wiping away the media whore/buzz words and such,

It sounds like a clip size/ammo count problem.
Have you ever trained with a firearm? Even with 10 round magazines, reloading a weapon takes seconds so spouting off with too many rounds in a magazine is pointless.
The fact is someone should have been concealed carrying that night, plain and simple.
As far as a handgun doing he same damage? Of course...it depends on the hand gun. If he would have had 2 FN Five sevens for instance he could have done a lot MORE damage. Anywhi this isn't a debate about guns I just am disappointed when people are manipulated by the media with trigger words.

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He had large mags and his weapon was a Sig Sauer which is an assault rifle but the internal mechanisms are designed different than AR-15s, they use the same setup as an AK-47 and were originally designed as a Special Forces modular rifle. BTW an assault rifle bullet leaves the barrel at 3 times the velocity of a typical handgun and exit wound would be the size of an orange on human tissue per shot. In such a compact area, his bullets were hitting multiple targets per shot.

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I'd just like to say that the term assault rifle or assault weapon is wrong An incorrect statement since "assault weapon" not a term used by any military or law enforcement organization, and if they do use it is is an inaccurate term. An assault rifle/weapon has fully automatic capability and are near impossible to obtain unlike the words of the media want you to believe. Bullshit, assault rifles do not have to be fully automatic, they can be semi. Even a vast majority of the M16s and M4s used by the US military aren't full auto, they have 3 round burst. They are still considered assault rifles. An assault rifle is technically just a term used based on the look and aesthetics of the rifle, not the functionality. If you have the experience and can pass an in depth background check by the federal government, you can pretty easily get a fully automatic firearm. It doesn't cost near as much as that one guy was saying and I know many people with full auto firearms in their collections.

Does that clear up the misinformation you were posting?

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Yeah I said near impossible beings you may only own one produced before 1986 unto which most people don't sell them heh.
Bullshit. It's not impossible, it's relatively easy if you have a military or law enforcement background, and even easier if you had a secret or top secret clearance while serving.

The thing is most of those with legal full auto firearms have to go through so much shit to get them that they aren't the kind of person who would go on a mass shooting spree.

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