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Old 02-01-2012, 04:22 PM
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Re: 17 Year Who Has Lived Off McNuggets Since She Was 2yrs Old.

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Funny you said "snope it" coz that's exactly where I got the story, which, by the way, is not a lie at all. Anybody can go to snope.com, tho, and see for themselves. Code word "mechanically separated".
the story in the email has been hyped up and had lies added to it. here is the snopes article with the sample email and correct information. i deleted text that corresponded to video and pics since i did not post these, i also deleted text at the bottom of the page giving additional information and citing references. if you want the whole article, please visit the website.

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'"Legal Separation
Claim: Text describes the process of producing mechanically separated chicken.

MIXTURE OF TRUE AND FALSE INFORMATION

Example: [Collected via e-mail, September 2010]

"Say hello to mechanically separated chicken. It's what all fast-food chicken is made from — things like chicken nuggets and patties. Also, the processed frozen chicken in the stores is made from it.

Basically, the entire chicken is smashed and pressed through a sieve — bones, eyes, guts, and all.

There's more: because it's crawling with bacteria, it will be washed with ammonia, soaked in it, actually. Then, because it tastes gross, it will be reflavored artificially. Then, because it is weirdly pink, it will be dyed with artificial color.

But, hey, at least it tastes good, right?"



Origins: Mechanically separated meat (MSM) and mechanically separated poultry (MSP) are terms used to refer to products created by mechanization which allows meat processors to recover edible meat tissue from the carcasses of animals. Prior to the mid-20th century, a good deal of meat scraps and tissue from food animals such as cows, pigs, chickens, and turkeys went to waste because processors had no efficient means of separating it from the bones after the rest of the meat had been removed from carcasses. This recovery process was largely done manually (when it was undertaken at all) until the development of machines in the 1960s that automated the process, making it faster, cheaper, and higher-yielding.

Mechanically separated meat is a paste-like or batter-like meat product created by forcing unstripped bones under high pressure through a type of sieve to separate edible meat tissue (including tendons and muscle fiber) from the bones. Contrary to what is claimed above, the process does not involve the grinding up of entire animal carcasses ("bones, eyes, guts, and all") into one large, amorphous glob of meat; it is a technique for removing what is left on the bones of a carcass after all other processing has been completed. Also, although beef producers commonly treat meat products with small amounts of ammonium hydroxide as an anti-microbial agent, meat and poultry processors do not routinely soak MSM or MSP in ammonia.

MSM is typically used in cheaper meat products (such as hot dogs, chicken nuggets, and frozen dinners) which need not retain the appearance, shape, or texture of "regular" meat. In order to satisfy consumer preferences, food producers may utilize additives in MSM-derived products in order to alter their color, taste, or texture.

(Although McDonald's Chicken McNuggets are typically offered as an example of a popular MSP-based food, since 2003 that product has been made with all white meat rather than MSP. Also, in January 2012 McDonald's announced that they had ceased using ammonium hydroxide-treated beef in their hamburgers.)

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), mechanically separated poultry is safe to eat and may be used without restriction, however in commercial food products it must be labeled as such: Mechanically separated poultry (MSP) is a paste-like and batter-like poultry product produced by forcing bones, with attached edible tissue, through a sieve or similar device under high pressure to separate bone from the edible tissue. Mechanically separated poultry has been used in poultry products since the late 1960's. In 1995, a final rule on mechanically separated poultry said it was safe and could be used without restrictions. However, it must be labeled as "mechanically separated chicken or turkey" in the product's ingredients statement. The final rule became effective November 4, 1996. Hot dogs can contain any amount of mechanically separated chicken or turkey.

However, due to concerns over the spread of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (commonly known as "mad cow disease"), the sale of MSM-derived beef products for human consumption in the U.S. was banned in 2004:
In 1982, a final rule published by FSIS (the Food Safety and Inspection Service) on mechanically separated meat said it was safe and established a standard of identity for the food product. Some restrictions were made on how much can be used and the type of products in which it can be used. These restrictions were based on concerns for limited intake of certain components in MSM, like calcium.

Due to FSIS regulations enacted in 2004 to protect consumers against Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, mechanically separated beef is considered inedible and is prohibited for use as human food. It is not permitted in hot dogs or any other processed product.

Mechanically separated pork is permitted and must be labeled as "mechanically separated pork" in the ingredients statement. Hot dogs can contain no more than 20% mechanically separated pork."


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now, as to ammonium hydroxide, it's in many processed foods we consume. so unless you are eating all whole foods, making your own condiments, doing all of your own baking, milking your own cow, and making your own cheese, etc, you would find it difficult to avoid. it kills bacteria, like e-coli, listeria, and salmonella.

http://web.archive.org/web/201105181...faqs.cfm#three

http://www.foodinsight.org/Resources...ood_Production


i am all for eating healthy, i am not about hype. when stupid articles like this go around, it makes all true articles suspect.

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I watched a movie called "Food Inc." while eating dinner a year ago. The next day I started eating all natural and free range foods. I will never go back to that processed shit food! Most people refuse to take the two seconds it takes to look at an ingredient list and and wonder what all those chemicals are.

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15 Years of ammonia consumption.....good luck with that one!

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half of that was a lie. there are no beaks, feet, feathers, or ammonia in it. snope it would ya?
Actually, no, there isn't beaks, feet and feather....because that is all removed before being prepared for consumption.

The chicken paste is the left over bones and internals that didn't get scraped out of a chicken prepared for eating. So you are correct there.

However, they do add ammonia, admitted by Mcdonalds themselves. It's used to kill bacteria and germs like salmonella.

This is going to change though, Mcdonalds has responded to public pressure and will be going through a different process of making nuggets

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I watched a movie called "Food Inc." while eating dinner a year ago. The next day I started eating all natural and free range foods. I will never go back to that processed shit food! Most people refuse to take the two seconds it takes to look at an ingredient list and and wonder what all those chemicals are.
Unless your growing it yourself it really doesn't matter....check out GM foods.

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I watched a movie called "Food Inc." while eating dinner a year ago. The next day I started eating all natural and free range foods. I will never go back to that processed shit food! Most people refuse to take the two seconds it takes to look at an ingredient list and and wonder what all those chemicals are.
yep ,seeing this movie just reassured me to never eat fast food again.

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http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24...-in-Hamburgers

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Actually, no, there isn't beaks, feet and feather....because that is all removed before being prepared for consumption.

The chicken paste is the left over bones and internals that didn't get scraped out of a chicken prepared for eating. So you are correct there.

However, they do add ammonia, admitted by Mcdonalds themselves. It's used to kill bacteria and germs like salmonella.

This is going to change though, Mcdonalds has responded to public pressure and will be going through a different process of making nuggets
please read the article again.

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pfft she will die later today

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please read the article again.
Yes?

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