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Exactly. It's not as if they're profiling and creating false charges.

If we made profiling against the law, it would be like tying our law enforcements hands. I'm sure it happens rather unfairly in a lot of cases. But if you're not breaking the law then you wouldn't have anything to worry about.

Black people in my opinion need to get their shit together. People like Jay Z and Lil Wayne shouldn't hold influence in their communities. But they do. They hold a lot of influence.
There's a lot of truth in this

Gangster culture shouldn't be glamorized by any race or group, but it is, and it's not just black people either.

It's a garbage way of life.

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There's a lot of truth in this

Gangster culture shouldn't be glamorized by any race or group, but it is, and it's not just black people either.

It's a garbage way of life.
You do know that Niknik dresses like a wigger right? Ask him to show you the infamous I'm a thug picture with his gun in his wasteband..

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It's funny Poo how you like to point out how racist the system is. But then in the other thread say blacks won't rise up in Ferguson if there's no indictment. That entire mess is because of perceived profiling and police abuse, and the perceived unfair treatment of blacks by police.
I pointed out WHY people talk about racism when they talk about marijuana arrests. Focus a little for us..

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That is why I am no big fan of graph use in debates. They usually depreciate effectiveness of factual statement the broader the numbers cover.

In this case of debate, we would have to individualize the graphs into smaller sums according to categorized scenarios, as well as circumstances.

Anyone that has had to learn graphing knows how misleading they can be, and how they also can be used to manipulate a business deal, or an audience.
It's not misleading in any way.. Blacks aren't 4 times more likely to commit crimes than whites, yet they are arrested for marijuana at those rates. Facts are facts whether i type them out of post infographics. The reason is police profiling, I never said we should get rid of profiling. Just pointing out WHY blacks talk about racism and the likes when marijuana arrests come up in conversation.

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It is very misleading because it covers a broad spectrum.


You can make a graph of how many people wipe their ass with their right hand, and get what seems to be an accurate number. But the only way to know everyone in the graph chooses to wipe with their right hand would take more in depth analysis.

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It is very misleading because it covers a broad spectrum.


You can make a graph of how many people wipe their ass with their right hand, and get what seems to be an accurate number. But the only way to know everyone in the graph chooses to wipe with their hand would take more in depth analysis.
I graph is just a visual representation of the numbers available, nothing else.

What are you trying to get at? You don't trust sample sizes can give accurate representations of entire populations?

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Not when the graph was designed to give an overall rating, but is then used to represent a lesser value of truth in a debate.


If you took out the ones arrest by minorities.
The ones that were blatant about breaking the law "walking around blasting blunts"
The ones with prior criminal history
The ones in other activities consequently getting caught with weed
The ones selling to undercovers
The ones snitched out
The ones caught "ridin dirtay"
Etc....etc.

You would then see that graph shrink in accordance to your racial argument.

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Not when the graph was designed to give an overall rating, but is then used to represent a lesser value of truth in a debate.


If you took out the ones arrest by minorities.
The ones that were blatant about breaking the law "walking around blasting blunts"
The ones with prior criminal history
The ones in other activities consequently getting caught with weed
The ones selling to undercovers
The ones snitched out
The ones caught "ridin dirtay"
Etc....etc.

You would then see that graph shrink in accordance to your racial argument.
Let me just end all that right now..

In the figures I gave with the graphs, the 8.2 million marijuana arrests between 2001 and 2010, 88% were for simply having marijuana.

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So that is a definitive number of "sought after, and arrest for marijuana because they were black"?

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So that is a definitive number of "sought after, and arrest for marijuana because they were black"?
Just of the total of all the arrests in the graphs were 9/10 times only because of marijuana. So the figures aren't skewed with other criminals.

Even IF(obviously it's not the case) all 12% of the criminals caught with marijuana doing other crimes were black, it still wouldn't account for a 4 times higher rate of arrest.

I will give you that blacks do tend to smoke more publicly. However, they are still cautious of police and aren't stupid enough to smoke in front of them on purpose. So it's hard to believe that accounts for the arrest rate discrepancies either.

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