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But a note to "profiling" racially or not, LE profile everything to enhance their intel for street cops.

They even profile white males driving old trucks between the hours of 4pm to 7pm to be a likely DUI, because of the amount of them getting off work stopping off to have a beer after work.
I agree, profiling is a tool they use.. Race is just one of the many factors they can profile. But they do, do it and that's what leads to the number of arrests being disproportionate towards blacks.

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I agree, profiling is a tool they use.. Race is just one of the many factors they can profile. But they do, do it and that's what leads to the number of arrests being disproportionate towards blacks.
But in the end, its the RESULTS that keeps it alive.... if every time they pulled over an old truck and found sober drivers, and stopped racking up on DUI convictions theyd eventually find it a waste of resources and stop.

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But in the end, its the RESULTS that keeps it alive.... if every time they pulled over an old truck and found sober drivers, and stopped racking up on DUI convictions theyd eventually find it a waste of resources and stop.
Marijuana arrests at all, on any level, are a waste of resources..

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It's no different than the much harsher sentencing guidelines for crack compared to powdered cocaine....... Once again we have an example of the black community paying a much higher price for committing essentially the same crime.

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Your government is elected by you, and is supposed to work for you.

A business that works towards the betterment of the American people.
I agree. And I've stated many times we the people are stupid. We all say, we don't trust the media, we don't trust the government. But then we elect who they tell us to elect. We hate who they tell us to hate. If we were smart we would elect the people they tell us to hate, because those are the people who will change things. That's why they're attacked.

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I didn't say ON it either, I meant in their possession.

Regardless of how you want to spin it, blacks are charged with simple marijuana possession on average 4 times more than white. Even though the races have the same percentages smoking it.
And blacks are much more likely to commit a crime. . Blacks are much more likely to grow up in a single parent home. Blacks are more likely to not finish high-school. You're much more likely to be a victim of a crime walking through a poor black neighborhood than walking through a poor white neighborhood. White people are more likely to have insurance on their vehicles, which is a big reason for probable cause. And on and on.

In other words your graphics are rather incomplete in explaining the how's and why's. Instead all factors are left out so the responsibility doesn't land with the individual, but just a insinuation of rampant racism.

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It's funny Poo how you like to point out how racist the system is. But then in the other thread say blacks won't rise up in Ferguson if there's no indictment. That entire mess is because of perceived profiling and police abuse, and the perceived unfair treatment of blacks by police.

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That is why I am no big fan of graph use in debates. They usually depreciate effectiveness of factual statement the broader the numbers cover.

In this case of debate, we would have to individualize the graphs into smaller sums according to categorized scenarios, as well as circumstances.

Anyone that has had to learn graphing knows how misleading they can be, and how they also can be used to manipulate a business deal, or an audience.

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But in the end, its the RESULTS that keeps it alive.... if every time they pulled over an old truck and found sober drivers, and stopped racking up on DUI convictions theyd eventually find it a waste of resources and stop.
Exactly. It's not as if they're profiling and creating false charges.

If we made profiling against the law, it would be like tying our law enforcements hands. I'm sure it happens rather unfairly in a lot of cases. But if you're not breaking the law then you wouldn't have anything to worry about.

Black people in my opinion need to get their shit together. People like Jay Z and Lil Wayne shouldn't hold influence in their communities. But they do. They hold a lot of influence.

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Sometimes if you look for something hard enough you'll find it more often...... If you spend more time focusing on a certain area, certain people, or specific group you'll find more wrong with them because they are receiving more attention.

It's a bad situation.

I can also understand how effective policing could mean focusing your attention on problem areas, places or people

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