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Was watching CNN last night. The topic : pot possession in New York has changed to just a ticket rather than possible arrest.

Guess what all the commentary was about.. Racism and profiling.
There is a reason people talk about profiling and racism when it comes to marijuana arrests. A higher percentage of white youth use it, but the vast majority of arrests for it are disproportionately made for blacks.

The total amount of marijuana users by race is very similar with 1-2% more for blacks as this chart shows:



The amount used by youth is more by whites:



For those who've never tried Marijuana blacks are more than whites:



But the amount of a black being arrested for marijuana is on average 4 times more likely.






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Before using statistical graphs as a base of an argument you explore all potential elements that makes up the graph. Something people fail to do.

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Before using statistical graphs as a base of an argument you explore all potential elements that makes up the graph. Something people fail to do.
What potential elements need to be explored? The fact that blacks are profiled more often, hence are stopped and arrested more often. Which in turn leads to the reason it's 4 times more likely for blacks to be arrested for Marijuana than whites?

If a group of white guys were standing outside on a corner talking, it's less likely the would be stopped and searched than a group of black guys. That's just reality.. I'm not saying all cops are racist but profiling does exist. It's the way all of our brains rationalize risk and threat assessment.

Point being.. There is a reason people talk about racism and profiling when it comes to marijuana and marijuana related arrests.

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There are plenty of elements to build graphs like that.

I would go into strenuous detail, but ill just give a couple of examples.

How many of those marijuana charges against blacks to make the numbers in the graph were concurrent charges with other crimes IE, bkack guy gets arrested for totally unrelated crime, but also get weed found on him. Obviously the marijuana arrest goes on record.


Then the cultural influences that differ from whites too blacks. Blacks are more likely than whites too parade around their recreational habits than whites.

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There are plenty of elements to build graphs like that.

I would go into strenuous detail, but ill just give a couple of examples.

How many of those marijuana charges against blacks to make the numbers in the graph were concurrent charges with other crimes IE, bkack guy gets arrested for totally unrelated crime, but also get weed found on him. Obviously the marijuana arrest goes on record.


Then the cultural influences that differ from whites too blacks. Blacks are more likely than whites too parade around their recreational habits than whites.
You've obviously never been to California..

I do believe the graphs are for JUST marijuana arrests..


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You've obviously never been to California..

I do believe the graphs are for JUST marijuana arrests..


When you can pull individual arrest logs that show a singular marijuana arrest, id believe it.

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When you can pull individual arrest logs that show a singular marijuana arrest, id believe it.
The vast majority of people doing other crimes aren't going to be on marijuana.. Maybe you could have an argument for meth/coke/heroin arrests and correlation with other crimes, but not marijuana.

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But a note to "profiling" racially or not, LE profile everything to enhance their intel for street cops.

They even profile white males driving old trucks between the hours of 4pm to 7pm to be a likely DUI, because of the amount of them getting off work stopping off to have a beer after work.

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The vast majority of people doing other crimes aren't going to be on marijuana.. Maybe you could have an argument for meth/coke/heroin arrests and correlation with other crimes, but not marijuana.
I didnt say while ON weed, I said in possession while being investigated, or arrested for somthing totally unrelated.

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I didnt say while ON weed, I said in possession while being investigated, or arrested for somthing totally unrelated.
I didn't say ON it either, I meant in their possession.

Regardless of how you want to spin it, blacks are charged with simple marijuana possession on average 4 times more than white. Even though the races have the same percentages smoking it.

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