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Now this is what makes me so pissed!! In the country I come from (Denmark) the law system is so unfairly mild. Pedophiles gets a few years in prison and comes out earlier for good behaviour, people there drive with alcohol in their blood. They KNOW they put themselves and others lifes on risk but they DONT CARE, and recently a drunk man killed a mother and her two kids in the traffic. And what is his punishment? 18 months and license moved for 5 years. ARGH!!! And he will do it again... just like the other careless people there. I bet some of those poor chinese women there didn't even kill anyone, but they get executed :( So unfair system.
I agree...... i would really like to know what these women did to deserve this...

EDIT: Okay i did some very minor research and i found these, i don't know how accurate they are because they are wikipedia... i trust wiki enough though..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_...ublic_of_China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital...ublic_of_China

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Now this is what makes me so pissed!! In the country I come from (Denmark) the law system is so unfairly mild. Pedophiles gets a few years in prison and comes out earlier for good behaviour, people there drive with alcohol in their blood. They KNOW they put themselves and others lifes on risk but they DONT CARE, and recently a drunk man killed a mother and her two kids in the traffic. And what is his punishment? 18 months and license moved for 5 years. ARGH!!! And he will do it again... just like the other careless people there. I bet some of those poor chinese women there didn't even kill anyone, but they get executed :( So unfair system.
Yep, it seems that legal systems always drift too far in one direction or the other - the US is in a confused state right now as it tries to drift in both directions - robbery, assualt, domestic violence and rape are being met with 'alternate sentencing' and plea bargains that are a joke, while drug sentencing is getting draconian in many states. About the only thing that's been pretty stable is murder sentencing, much to the chagrin of Western European human rights organisations that seem to think that taking a human life is only worth fifteen years or so.

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I agree...... i would really like to know what these women did to deserve this...

EDIT: Okay i did some very minor research and i found these, i don't know how accurate they are because they are wikipedia... i trust wiki enough though..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_...ublic_of_China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital...ublic_of_China
Here's a breif, if biased article on the subject:


Capital Punishment in China

The number of executions which take place in China - true estimate more than 7,000 per year (the government officially declares little over 1,000) - are considered a state secret. The death penalty can be given out for a series of 68 crimes, 28 of them non-violent. These crimes include embezzlement, tax fraud, accepting bribes, illegal financial schemes, re-selling tax receipts, stealing or selling national treasures, pornography, graft, profiteering, habitual theft and killing pandas.

The majority of those condemned to death are shot, sometimes in groups, often in public. However, the use of lethal injection is growing. Many believe that this facilitates the illegal trade of prisoners' organs. Organs can "be extracted in a speedier and more effective way than if the prisoner is shot," says Mark Allison, East Asia researcher at Amnesty International in Hong Kong. "We have gathered strong evidence suggesting the involvement of police, courts and hospitals in the organ trade."

In a recent study, (April 2008) Amnesty International reports that huge profits from the sale of prisoners' organs may be one of the reasons why China refuses to consider eliminating the death penalty. Executions by lethal injection often take place in “death vans.” The manufacturers of these death vans say they save money, as execution facilities do not need to be constructed. Plus, the organs can be kept fresh.

The company that constructs the death vans also manufactures bulletproof limousines for the elite and armored trucks for banks.

Prisoners are often denied the right to legal counsel, when they do have a lawyer, the lawyer is given one or two days to prepare their defense. If condemned to death, the prisoner has 3 to 10 days to present an appeal, rarely granted. In most cases, the only real proof against the condemned prisoner is their confession, extracted by torture.

There are two categories of death sentences. Immediate, which means the individual has 3 to 10 days to receive pardon. If not, they are executed at a maximum of a one week period after the request for pardon has not been granted. This is the most frequent.

Otherwise the execution is suspended for 2 years, and if the person commits no more crimes during hat period, the sentence is then commuting to life imprisonment.

In 1979, a person could be sentenced to death for 28 crimes. Since 1983, the regime has organized various ''Strike Hard'' campaigns which have resulted in tens of thousands of executions, more each year than in the rest of the world combined.

In 1997 the crimes for which the death penalty can be prescribed increased to 68, while the Chinese regime recently claimed a 15% drop in executions. But as usual, they have provided no evidence to support their claim.

As Deng Xiaoping said "Execution is one of the indispensable means of education."

A list of most capital crimes

voluntary homicide
involuntary homicide
violence
rape
physical harm
aggression
human traffic
kidnapping
corruption
bribery and corruption
embezzlement
re-sale of tax receipts
tax evasion
financial forgery
speculation
fraud
financial or insurance fraud
credit card fraud
extortion
blackmail
contraband of nuclear materials
contraband of arms
contraband of ammunition or explosives
contraband of counterfeit money
contraband of national treasures
contraband of rare species or their products
contraband of precious metals, with tax evasion superior to 500,000 yuan
collusion with the enemy against the Chinese state
attempt to split the state
armed revolt against the state
defection
espionage
reveal, purchase or steal state secrets
providing arms or military equipment to the enemy in time of war
participate in secret associations with subversive goals
subversion
attempted murder
attempted kidnapping
attempted theft
attempted fraud
theft of valuable property
habitual theft
the use of telephone lines or public transportation without authorization
theft of lines of communication for profit
reproduction of telephone codes for profit
breaking and entering or violation of domicile
destruction of public or private property
escaping from prison or assisting others in escaping from prison
spreading poison
sale or manufacture of harmful or false foodstuffs, toxic alcohol or false medicines which cause grave consequences to consumers
sale or manufacture of harmful or false products
production or exposition of pornographic material
causing explosions
possession, sale or manufacture of arms munitions and explosives
gambling
bigamy
disturbing public order
disturbing the life of citizens
the use of dangerous methods which cause grave harm or death
arson
organization, induction, introduction, protection and exploitation of prostitution
hooliganism
hunting protected species
spreading SARS or violating quarentine
revelation or theft of state secrets via internet
bootlegging
drug dealing

Ironically, the Chinese dictatorship itself is guilty of practically every crime on the list.

Sources:
Amnesty International
USA Today
The New York Times

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Here's another veiwpoint on it:

Understanding the Death Penalty in China
Posted by Robert Vance on July 2nd, 2008

“He was already dead by the time that I arrived,” a Chinese friend explained to me. “I rode my bicycle as fast as I could to the countryside to see the execution but in the end, I only heard the gun shot.” My friend was recounting to me the story from her hometown of a young man who had been caught stealing 400 RMB from a wealthy lady . He had been quickly handed over to the police and sentenced to death.

“When I arrived at the scene, there were a group of people gathered around the body,” my friend told me. “There was a lot of blood; he had been shot in the head by the police.” My Chinese friend, who was just a little girl when this story happened 25 years ago, told me that the thief had been paraded around town and even made to stand on a platform near her school building to make sure that everyone knew about the crime and understood what was going to happen to the man. Looking back, she tells me, she is glad that she did not arrive in time to witness the execution, but she will never forget the sight of the man laying there in a pool of blood.

Such impromptu executions at the local level may be now very rare in China but the concept behind the death penalty remains the same; paying for a crime with one’s life is the best way to deter other people from committing the same crimes. However, it is not just violent offenders that are punished with death in China. Crimes involving tax fraud and corruption and even drug related charges are eligible for the death penalty in China. Perhaps the most well known death penalty case in China during this decade occurred in 2005 when Zheng Xiaoyu, director of the State Food and Drug Administration was put to death for taking bribes and dereliction of duty. Criminals who continue to backslide may also find themselves facing death for less serious crimes such as theft or fraud.

While China introduced lethal injections in the late 90’s as a method for carrying out the death penalty, my friends and students tell me that most offenders are put to death by a shot to the back of the head from an assault rifle. I have also been told that the families of the offenders are often compelled by the government to purchase the bullet that is used in the gun. While various reasons for this have been put forward by my friends, it is likely that these families must pay for the bullets in order to demonstrate that they understand and accept the reasons for the execution of their loved one.




While there seems to be a ongoing debate in the West as to whether or not the death penalty should be allowed to exist, most Chinese people seem to support the use of capital punishment in their country. For them, modern capital punishment in China is simply a more civilized way of enforcing what has always been an ‘eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth’ mentality in China. People should pay for their crimes, my Chinese friends and students tell me. Most Chinese people seem dislike the idea of leaving a prisoner in jail for life. When I ask my friends about some of the less serious crimes that are also punishable by death they shrug their shoulders. For them, the idea of one less crook or fraudster on the streets of China seems to be quite pleasant.

Many people wonder if the death penalty will be abolished in China in the near future. Do not count on it. With the Chinese government’s renewed pledge to fight corruption in China in the aftermath of the Sichuan earthquake, it is very likely that the CCP will continue to use the death penalty as an important deterrent. In addition, while there has been some criticism from the international community of the Chinese government on its excessive use of capital punishment, it has not been nearly strong enough to cause any major ‘PR’ problems for the Chinese government. And, as I mentioned before, Chinese public opinion seems to be with the CCP on the issue of the death penalty. Almost everyone in China is willing to do what it takes to lower the crime rates in their developing country.

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Damn make think that we should have that here sounds good to me.

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I'm with execution
The Chinese are 1 miliard they need - kill bad persone

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look at the 5th pic. the gun man cant even watch.

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Now this is what makes me so pissed!! In the country I come from (Denmark) the law system is so unfairly mild. Pedophiles gets a few years in prison and comes out earlier for good behaviour
Note to self: Move to Denmark.

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I really hate this world. It's beyond fucked up. These pictures have really made me sad. Not to get all weepy and crap on ya' but sheesh. They look so calm knowing it's their last moments. I'd probably crap my pants. I wonder what they did.....any info anyone?!
Its funny you said that. I have often wondered why in alot of execution video's and photo's the condemned seem so calm as if they have already died. There must be some kind of psychological wall that gets reached that you just completely zone out. When some of the first beheading videos started to circulate I couldnt help but wonder how much begging and crying I would be doing to try and keep my head on my shoulders.

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She would have made a nice mama-san

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